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Small France, huge Tokyo & immense Bieberland [message #585932] Fri, 31 May 2013 02:08 Go to next message
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France is a small country

Huh? From whose point of view?


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Re: Is Oracle RAC Certfication Exam for 10gR2 is still valid? [message #585933 is a reply to message #585932] Fri, 31 May 2013 02:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Number of inhabitants less than 2 times Tokyo.

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Re: Is Oracle RAC Certfication Exam for 10gR2 is still valid? [message #585936 is a reply to message #585933] Fri, 31 May 2013 02:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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By any parameter I can think of, France is anything but small, so - I'll disagree with you.
Re: Is Oracle RAC Certfication Exam for 10gR2 is still valid? [message #585955 is a reply to message #585936] Fri, 31 May 2013 07:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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According to Wikipedia, the population of the Greater Tokyo Area is (rounded, as of 2007) 36 million. According to www.statisticsbrain.com, Justin Bieber has 47 million Facebook fans, making him equal to 1.3 Tokyos. Good to know that he is still only a small country (using MC's definition of "small"). But if you UNION ALL his Facebook fans with his Twitter followers (another 28 mill) he is 2 Tokyos, which would take him up a level (to a medium sized country, perhaps). It can only be hoped that a UNION would reduce this figure substantially.
Re: Is Oracle RAC Certfication Exam for 10gR2 is still valid? [message #585958 is a reply to message #585955] Fri, 31 May 2013 07:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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LOL!

I've seen you today, John, here (check the 10th picture, the only black & white one) (can't attach it here, it is protected by copyright). The title says:Quote:

Five time Grand Prix winner John Watson plays with his pet dogs at home in 1975.
Didn't know you have dogs.
Re: Is Oracle RAC Certfication Exam for 10gR2 is still valid? [message #585959 is a reply to message #585955] Fri, 31 May 2013 07:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well Lady Gaga with ~53 million Facebook followers and ~37 million twitter followers would then be about 2.5 Tokyos. Would INTERSECTing the Beliebers with the Little Monsters start WWIII?
Re: Is Oracle RAC Certfication Exam for 10gR2 is still valid? [message #585997 is a reply to message #585959] Fri, 31 May 2013 17:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Everything is relative, but whether you compare by population or total area, France is in the top 10% to 20% of the countries on the list, so I wouldn't call it small.

by population 21st out of 242

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population

by total area 43rd out of 249

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_area

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Re: Is Oracle RAC Certfication Exam for 10gR2 is still valid? [message #585998 is a reply to message #585997] Fri, 31 May 2013 18:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One wonders why there are 242 countries in the population list but 249 in the area list.

That aside, Googling for the average surface area of humans, I found 180000 cm2:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090518024200AA9N4yf

I can't vouch for its accuracy. Assuming it is reasonably close, that would come to 0.0000018 km2. I can't say whether Bieber or Gaga would be the smaller of the two. Generally I'd assume the woman, but the Bieb is pretty puny. Whichever is the case, the two definitely come in at 250 and 251, take your pick as to the order.

Assuming a population of just the Facebook numbers, Gaganistan would come at number 24 by population and Bieberbia would hit 30 (after bumping down the countries previously at 24-28).

If we were to rank countries by Gross Domestic Product, I imagine the two would also rank reasonably high on the list.
Re: Is Oracle RAC Certfication Exam for 10gR2 is still valid? [message #586001 is a reply to message #585997] Sat, 01 June 2013 01:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So my country is not so small as I feel it looking at a map of the world. Smile

We have another indicator, created by http://www.globeco.fr/ (not accessible when I wrote this post but the page is in Google cache): the IBM (Indice du Bonheur Mondial, World Happiness Index), inspired by the GNH and HDI.
You can see a detailed description of this indicator there (I attach the file in case you can't reach the site).

You can see a summary of the 2010 ranking there (from 2008 figures; the index is published every year (in Feb iirc) built from the statistics of year-2). I Google translated the page, fixing some errors in it and in the translation (note the link in this site is wrong, it is globeco.fr and not globaleco.fr):

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World Happiness Index (WHI) is based on 40 criteria in four areas:

• Peace and security.
• Freedom, democracy and human rights.
• Quality of life.
• Research, training, communication and culture.

Criteria are as various as the number of nuclear weapon heads, victims of major armed conflicts, corruption, the probability of reaching age 65, but also the freedom of the press, the rights of women, children, the number of suicides and even the CO2 in the atmosphere.
Once all the data compiled, the WHI country ranking is calculated. France goes in two years from the 15th to the 11th place, eight places have been won in the field "peace and security", five in "freedom, democracy, human rights" and three in "research, training, information, communication, culture."

Why USA are 22nd? Experiencing "major armed conflicts", they are crippled by a system of unequal health, the death penalty or the rate of violent deaths. These figures do not take into account the economic crisis that will appear in the next ranking in 2011.


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Country sizing algorithms [message #586004 is a reply to message #586001] Sat, 01 June 2013 03:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Perhaps a letter should go to ANSI, proposing that the "Tokyo" be adopted as the SI unit for country size, expressed in terms of happy female teenagers per square centimeter.

LF is wrong about me in 1975: wasn't interested in cars or dogs then. I think that was the summer I saw both Hair and the Rocky Horror Show (on stage of course, not those dreadful movies), which was when I became interested in girls and enlightenment.
Re: Country sizing algorithms [message #586005 is a reply to message #586004] Sat, 01 June 2013 03:44 Go to previous message
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